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Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

SouthernGirl2 — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:13:16 -0000

BTW...Peanut is too cute....she really is a doll!

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

rikyrah — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:13:10 -0000

that's a good point , and I didn't think about it in that way.

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

SouthernGirl2 — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:06:24 -0000

Rikyrah,

I want us all to be able to work through these bruised and hurt feelings. They're very real and bottled up resentment is not good for anyone. A lot of people were hurt from actions at JJP. Talking about it helps us all to clear the air so we can heal & move forward.

IIRC, after Baratunde made his appearance on MSNBC after the Ape cartoon explosion, we congratulated him, gave him huge props of a job well done, we were proud of him. We didn't wait 3 days to acknowledge him. After 3 days, the excitement is gone. No one should wait to thank or congratulate someone. You do it at that moment!

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

rikyrah — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:04:13 -0000

I read your responses to me, and posted about Spirit. I admit, I didn't understand the depth of your feelings about it. I was caught off by the blowback thinking that I was purposefully insulting Spirit.

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

Ametia — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:50:34 -0000

Why how convenient! But WEESeeYou, Cheryl..... See new thread. The press release has it's own space for comments now.

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

Ametia — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:48:16 -0000

You, my dear are a liar! Myth and Justice practically coerced you into responding.

When Spirit posted her expereince at the PBO's rally, you posted a pic of your niece Peanut, thus diverting attention away from the news of the rally. Damn, how stupid do you think we are, rikyrah?!

You could have congratulated Spirit, acknowledged her attendance at the rally and noted you'd post the details on Monday... Once again, you made it all about you!!

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

rikyrah — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:37:28 -0000

i know that was the feeling of some of you; wasn't true, but I knew that was the feeling.

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

SouthernGirl2 — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:34:27 -0000

When Spirit returned from that rally and gave her report, that was the time to acknowledge & congratulate her. We knew she was at that rally & were waiting anxiously for her to return and give up the scoop. The traffic was already there, Rikyrah. IMO, you let your personal feelings get in the way.

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

rikyrah — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:18:30 -0000

I remember the uproar about that. the rally happened over the weekend, and I had prepared the post for Monday morning, because it would get more traffic, and I recall that I was mocked when I explained it that way.

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

Ametia — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:11:20 -0000

done

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

SouthernGirl2 — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:53:22 -0000

My hope is that we can continue to respect each other as everyday warriors in the struggle and continue to work side-by-side when our interests align.

Hello Jill,

Just thinking about your words...."Love IMO doesn't mean loving everything a person does but being honest with each other".

Jill, love means respecting a person even if one has disagreements with them. In that JJP committed Epic Fail. Where is calling or allowing someone from your blog to call our first black President a "wuss", "weak", a "sell-out punk" an expression of love? Jill, that is destructive, it's fighting words meant to destroy. It's not an attack on policy, it's a personal attack on his manhood. As a woman, I am sure you know there are some things one just doesn't do---you doNOT attack a man's manhood. Those attacks can never be taken back and the damage is done. You nor anyone else at JJP came out and denounced it. We took it as JJP being in agreement with it.

You've not addressed the issues at all that we've brought up in this thread. Is your allegiance more with Arianna & Jane Hamsher than the black community? Please tell us. Your blog is directed at a black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics! I don't see it that way any more. Arianna & Jane may have helped JJP to get started but it is bloggers that kept it moving and made it what it is today. IMO, JJP haven't lived up to it promise with the black community. It seems you've lost sight of your original goal and that is serving the black community. Is not JJP to be held accountable for their actions?

Lastly, I would think JJP would be so proud of one of their own top commenters being able to get a seat sitting so close behind the President that one could reach out and touch him. JJP had to be called upon by other commenters to acknowledge it's own top commenter "Spirit". That is major Epic Fail! A seat sitting behind the President is not given to anyone, that would have to be earned. Spirit earned that seat by her loyal enduring hard work, just as she was loyal on JJP. She came to JJP daily fighting for the cause and having nearly 12,000 posts prooves it. It takes commenters to push a blog. JJP owes Spirit an apology.

SouthernGirl2

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

Alexander2 — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:52:08 -0000

Can you resend? No new email shows up for today.

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

Alexander2 — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:51:53 -0000

duplicate

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

Ametia — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:42:19 -0000

WEESEEYOU!

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

Ametia — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:30:22 -0000

check email please.

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

Alexander2 — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:24:39 -0000

There is no room down there at the very very bottom of the thread to post a response. Comments obviously aren't welcome. Nice press release, though.

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

Ametia — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:09:22 -0000

Good Morning/Afternoon Cheryl/Jill

Here's my response for now... More to come!

Won't Back Down!

http://www.dailymotion.com/...

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

cheryl aka jill tubman — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:02:50 -0000

Hey - wanted to let you know that Jack, rikyrah and I read this post and all the comments.

What I want to express is how grateful I am for your prior support since I can see some of you are JJP community members. Your participation in the fight to get Barack Obama elected and on other issues means more to me than I can say.

I hear your disappointment and anger. I respect your concerns and took time to think about how best to respond to them.

It's possible that we may choose to agree to disagree. My hope is that we can continue to respect each other as everyday warriors in the struggle and continue to work side-by-side when our interests align.

Jane and Arianna have supported Jack and Jill Politics since the site first launched in 2006. They were there for us probably even before some of you heard about JJP. In the case of Jane, she's become a friend over the years. I may not agree with all of her positions, but I respect her work and her commitment. When she and Pachacutec of FDL asked us to join Common Sense Media, it made sense to us. Why shouldn't African-American blogs benefit from advertisers too -- especially when most of CSM's major advertisers are nonprofit organizations whose aims we tend to support.

The money from CSM and BlogAds helps us to pay for the site's server operations and for travel expenses to conferences. It's been a lifeline since we all have full time jobs and JJP needs resources.

We are eager to work with a black-owned ad network too and have been in negotiations with 2 such networks recently. Once we know more, we'll share that with you.

As for Arianna, again, I don't always agree with her. But I admire what she's done with HuffPo as a female entrepreneur and activist. I think she's a visionary.

I think you know we love ourselves some Barack Obama. It still makes my heart skip a beat to hear his voice on TV sometimes.

That love includes accountability though. We know that the White House is a fishbowl. We aim to help the President stay focused and deliver on his promises of change - especially where black folks are concerned. We happen to know that external pressure sometimes gives the Administration the air cover to push issues forward since it's clearer that they have public support or helps them refine their positioning.

That's how we see our role. Love IMO doesn't mean loving everything a person does but being honest with each other. That's our goal.

I understand if you see things differently and would like to see that support for the Prez expressed differently.

My hope is that we can continue to talk about how best to support the President and his agenda and ensure on JJP that we're representing the diversity of opinion in the African-American community on JJP.

Again, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your support in the past and know that we want to hear from you when you are disappointed in us and have questions. That's what this blog thang is all about.

Peace, Cheryl/Jill

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

SouthernGirl2 — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:39:10 -0000

What is the cozying up with Arianna Huffington all about?

Arianna is a snake in the grass! It all about the hits, traffic and making money. Those ugly blaring headlines about the President create traffic for her blog.
She's no liberal...she's a republican!

PlanetPOV are smart peeps! They're on to her ass.
HP tried to shut them out and silence them for pointing out her bullsh!t. Good for them to re-group and get the story out of what she's all about.

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

Ametia — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:53:58 -0000

Ultimately, the onus is on JJP. Good night, Alex.

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

SouthernGirl2 — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:51:39 -0000

Amen

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

Alexander2 — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:48:18 -0000

Even then, it was all about Jill. She didn't have to ask people what she should say, it should have been in her DNA to say just what you wrote. Fuck the great honor of being on the BBC with the "fabulous" Jane Hamsher.

When Rikyah took JJP into a direction of hate, nothing from Jill. Nothing from Jack. I have to rinse this bile out of my mouth before I go to bed. Good night, Wee See You family.

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

Ametia — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:37:11 -0000

Jill: "I realize I’ll be among those representing African-Americans to the rest of the world on an important night, win or lose for our guy. What do you think is most important to communicate about African-Americans and our relationship to Barack Obama’s victory or loss?"

Answer: If we vote for Barack Obama, we will support his efforts to serve America. We will give him the respect, space, and opportunity to do is fucking job.

We'll SUPPORT his efforts in as much as we have the capacity to do so!

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

SouthernGirl2 — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:33:24 -0000

I am wondering if Jill has posted any articles criticizing Bill Clinton for his dog whistle during the primaries?

Re: WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?

Ametia — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:26:54 -0000

I've no doubt she believes what she writes. I 'm just not down with JJP falling for the okey dokey and selling out.